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A Victorian RV

Jake von Slatt — Mon, 01/14/2008 - 05:25

Bus Tour:

In 1982 I was a sophomore at a small college in the Midwest. It was the beginning of second term and I was again standing in line at the on-campus book store waiting to pay for a too-heavy stack of text books. The line was not moving at all so I put my books down on the floor and started flipping through the coffee table books on display. The book I chose to pick up first was titled Rolling Homes - Handmade House on Wheels by Jane Lidz. Thus the seed was planted.

This project was first published on vonslatt.com but I recently put together this video so I thought I'd collect some of the best images from the original build log and re-publish it here since was really the first  steampunkish project I did.

For those that watched video: Yep, that my power cord dragging behind the bus! It caught on a tow hook when I disconnected it. However, I didn't run out the full 100' so it didn't rip the outlet off the house, um, this time.

The salon is the star of the show, I can not express how pleased I am with the way it turned out!  Even more so because all of the wood you see here and most of the fittings were scavenged from the recycling bins at our town dump, something that to my great consternation is no longer allowed!

The lamp hanging over the table is a New York Angle Lamp, a kerosene burning wick lamp.  We use it quite often when camping and it produces as much light as a 60 watt light bulb and adds a wonderful ambiance. I bought it online and refurbished it a couple of years ago.

I was trying for a Victorian look in my design, I wanted something that had the feel of a sea coast summer house that had been in the family for generations.  Something bright, light, and simple but with an air of country elegance.  All within the constraints of material I found or was given.

Victorian RV - Salon

If you are thinking about converting an old school bus into a motor home one of the first things you should do is give it a paint job.  In fact, in many states you may not be allowed to register a yellow bus until it's painted.  I went with a nice green and almond livery, the lighter color on top to help keep the bus cooler in the summer sun.

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q. Do you need a special drivers license?

A. Nope, not as long as it is registered as a recreational vehicle, no matter how big it is.  Most states have some requirements as to what constitutes an RV and this usually means you have to have such things as a 110 volt electrical system, a bathroom and built-in beds or bunks.

Q. Why not just buy a used RV?

A. Because I wanted something different, something I made myself.  Also, school buses are very, very tough and thus much safer then an RV in an accident.

Q. How much did it cost?

A. About $2000 for the bus, $750 to have it delivered from about 300 miles away on a flat bed, and I figure I've put about $3500 into the conversion - but some of that was for tools which don't really count.  I bought the bus on eBay and I was lucky.  A bus like this is usually about four grand.

Q. How fast does it go ? What kind of gas mileage do you get?

A. My bus is a 1989 Thomas Saf-T-Liner with a CAT 3208 10.4 Liter diesel engine and around a 100K miles on it.  It's got 210 HP but gobs and gobs of torque so it will do 60- 65 on the highway and get 9-11 miles per gallon.  Its also great for pulling stumps.

Q. How did you paint it?

A. I took off all the trim and lights and the painted with True Value XO-Rust ( others have used Rustoleum ) and a 3/8" nap roller.  I used a brush for small areas.  A single coat covered quite well and three years later the finish is as good as new.  Total cost to paint: about $100

Jake and Bus

This is the crew's quarters, I cut down full sized pine doors for the passageway and used full sized brass hardware.  The bead-board paneling is one of the few bits of new material I purchased.  The bunk are covered with a queen-sized latex foam mattress that has been cut in half with a carving knife.  The lamps are conventional Edison base fixtures and I've made adapters that convert them to take 12 volt automotive tail light bulbs.

Victorian RV - - Crew Quarters

This is the door to the bathroom and the kitchen cabinets.  Much of the cabinetry came from Craigslist.org and from friends who were renovating their kitchens.  I trimmed the edges off of these oak doors so that I could fit them flush into the cabinet face frame for a more period look.

Victorian RV - Galley

I chose the paint colors to try and tie the carpet color to the buses interior.  When you are working with recycled materials paint is one of the few color choices you get to make.  The darker green is from Glidden and is named "Mystic Seaport" and the lighter green is the closet match I could find for the school bus interior paint color and is called "Light Tourmaline."  The carpet came from a friends dinning room.  

All and all I think the blues go quite well with the golden and woody tones of the woodwork and upholstery .

Victorian RV - Kitchen

There was not a lot of room for much more then a futon in the master's cabin.  The futon's base is from an old waterbed and contains six drawers, the engine hump at the back is covered in more carpet and makes a nice nightstand.

Victorian RV - Master's Chamber

Most of the storage for the master bedroom is in the partition between it and the bunk room, its about a foot thick and contains a closet as well as a fold down desk on the right.

Storage wall

Heres another shot of the salon, the table is a solid core door from Home Depot with legs made from a pair of old hat stands.  The kitchen sink came from the aformentioned metal recycling bins at the dump and I bought the RV stove and dorm room style 'fridge.

Victorian RV - Livingroom

This is the original photo of the bus from the eBay ad - with all of the lights, PA, and STOP signs still attached.  If you'd like to see some pictures of the actual construction of the bus, have a look at Part Two: Construction.

Jake's 1989 Thomas Saf-T-Liner

 

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OilItRight — Tue, 09/01/2009 - 23:22

regarding pulling stumps. I have a converted BlueBird I call my "BlunderLodge" it also has more then enough to pull stumps. I tow a enclosed car trailer with a diesel jetta in it and a zodiac plus all the extra stuff you carry around and the bus pulss it like there is nothing there.

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When buying a schoolbus...

Technogeek — Tue, 08/04/2009 - 02:04

... make sure it will do highway speed before you put your money down. Ask someone in the SCA (especially those from Carolingia) to tell you the full story of Warrior Bus Lines. Or, if you can't find someone who can tell it properly, you can read the whole tale at http://www.panix.com/~alexx/wbl2.txt (No, I wasn't involved; I'm only peripherally involved with the SCA. But I know folks who were around at the time, and that trip has been commemorated in song and story ever since.)

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That is a GREAT story! So

Jake von Slatt — Tue, 08/04/2009 - 10:59

That is a GREAT story! So typical too.  Buses are geared for their use, a typical "route" bus might go 55 but is geared for stop and go driving.  If you're buying a school bus you want a "trip" bus, they often have cargo bays underneath for sports equipment and will do upwards of 65 MPH.  Mine will go 70 if floored but I keep it to a mile a minute to be nice to the motor. 

I have an Allison MT-643 tranny, which often indicates a bus that will do highway speeds (but not always.) If you're looking at a bus with the AT-545, make sure you test drive it on the highway to see what it will do.  One day I do plan to swap out the rear end for a taller ratio, it should significanty improve my mileage and is not that difficult a thing to do.

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Configuration Questions

Stormchaser — Mon, 07/13/2009 - 23:58

The colour scheme fits very well. Makes me think of the Isle of Sodor.

Just for effect, you ought to put together a bus driver's uniform with the peaked cap with goggles on it. Not that you'd ever wear the goggles, but it has a "Victorian Motorist" look to it.

Did you blank out all the doors except the main door?

The "crew quarters" space appears to run the entire width of the rig. Is the only way to the master's cabin through it?

Have you considered replacing the rectangular headlamps and square turn signals with round ones?

Ditto the taillights, if they're the same type as the turn signals.

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Great bus

aldiemike — Sat, 04/18/2009 - 21:22

I think the bus is awesome! My grandfather built one similar about 40-45 years ago, and the memories of camping in that bus are still fresh even though he has been gone for 35 years and the bus was sold shortly afterwards. One thing I may have overlooked on yours - - is the fridge 110 or a gas-powered unit? Also, did you ever consider adding a generator?

Thanks!

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I loath generators,

Jake von Slatt — Sun, 04/19/2009 - 17:27

I loath generators, especially in campgrounds!  The fridge is currently 110 AC, but I have a gas fridge waiting for installation.  For off grid camping we'll use kerosene lamps and the gas fridge and save the batteries to run the water pump.
A couple of solar panels and a wind turbine are in the planning stage.

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Victoriana

rjnerd — Wed, 08/26/2009 - 21:57

Clearly you need to do a steam powered generator. Unfortunately that means it can't be left untended.

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89 Bus

jcoop — Mon, 09/22/2008 - 21:15

Jake,

think I am getting ready to take the plunge and do a bus like you did.
any advice?
what would you do differently?
what do you think of the bus on the road?

thx
John

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